ALTERNATE WELSH HISTORY: A Web Search Up Date Information TOWARDS ALTERNATE WALES 1911.

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Much to interest you, I was quite amazed how much I began to find out there re growing interest in writting up on this theme. I could have gone on searching but I will leave that to you if you have a serious interest. I would like to draw your attention to below inclusion of a link to Alternate British/Empire history that may be further useful also note links to Welsh Socialist Republic themes below toward end of post, this as already proved to gather to it a number of people interested in this Welsh Socialist AWH theme area, which you can continue to search for.

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I am working on a major Alternate Welsh History Project WALES 1911, this will be quite a major enterprise of which I hope to start posting up as from beginning of July 2010. This project is in two AWH theme area developments, the one a story set in the past covering three post Glyndwr great Welsh Rebellions 1529 - 1536, 1905 - 1911 and 1962 - 1969. The other is set in the future between 2010 - 2018. First post will contain yet unseen photos of Camp Dafydd Ifan y Gof aka Camp 1826, Rebel 'Green Shirt' strong hold in the Liberated Zone, some where in the Green Desert of Western Central Cymru.

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These historic fotos I found in a Cabin Trunk passed down to my mother from her father, a son of a Merthyr Red Commune Rebel. The photos were taken of the deserted Camp 182

6 shortly after the 'Green Shirt' Rural Rebels had began their march into Southern Wales, that would lead to their ravaging of the Pontcanna Patagonia in Cardiff and subsequent occupation of Cathays Park. Leading to a 'stand off' with a Welsh Capitalist Government who have ordered the 'Cambrian Army' to prepare to attack the Cathays park based 'Green Shirted' Rural Rebels. At same time in 'Bro Morgannwg' a 'Red Shirt' Workers Army defends the 'Red Communes' of the Rhondda and Tonypandy, Merthyr, Aberdare, Ammanford and Llanelli. This is WALES 1911, be prepared for ages of revolt and rebellion to make up for the lack of such in real time in real Wales!

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Note in 2011 Wales will also mark the last wave of Welsh Migrants to the Patagonia - Chubet Welsh Settlement in 1911, thus an 100th anniversary which could be marked in Alternate Welsh History Themes possibly as follows

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THE WELSH EMPIRE

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Gethin

TANK GIRL TINA TO TAKE ON THE TERRORISTS.

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Tank Girl Tina smiles for the cameras after receiving her orders from Free Wales Home Army Commander Barri Tenby aka 'Coney' to take the FWHA IV Southern Tank Corps to set up position on Severn Bridge to defend against any military threat by Saxon expansionists to the integrity of Welsh Border Lands.

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Publically orders are intended to show that the FWHA is only carrying out defensive manoeuvres in response to acts of aggression carried out by 'Hengist & Horsa' Terrorists backed by a UKIP English Government that desires and seeks the Independence of Wales is negated and the country be brought into the Greater British Union (So styled after the annexation of Holland). However, secretly Tank Girl Tina has alternative orders, totally wipe out the ''Saxon Bandits'' and quickly move on Hereford defeat UKIP forces there then move on to Ludlow. There the FWHA IV Southern Tank Corps will establish strong defensive positions and await arrival of FWHA VI Central Tank Corps before proceeding to move north to capture Shrewsbury with assistance of the FWHA VII Northern Tank Corps. This operation is designed to 'soften up' Saxon Positions on the East Bank ready for a full North - South Border FREE WALES HOME ARMY offensive with orders not to stop until all lost 'West British' land has been retaken up to the banks of the River Severn.

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OK! got the story so far, you take it from there.

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Barry 'Coney' Tenby
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A SPECIAL WELSH WAR NEWS ANNOUNCEMENT: The German Army has come to help Liberate Wales from English Rule.

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Over night the Germans have successfully established a beach head between Ogmore and Porthcawl......American forces surrender after German Paratroopers land behind their lines......Advance S.S. Units move through sand hills to seize Merthyr Mawr, they and German Paratrooper Units liberate German Officers in Internment Camp on outskirts of Bridgend...... Merthyr Mawr made German H.Q. as German forces move forward on a broad front to encircle Bridgend but meet fierce Home Guard resistance in Ewenny and Coity........Free Wales Forces and White Eagle Para militaries have moved into Pencoed as their forward position in readiness to join up with German forces but they encounter a surprise attack from British Army Units based at Coychurch.......Further Welsh War News Reports soon............. others out there may continue with this alternative Welsh history.

LLANIDLOES CHARTISTS LAUNCH GUERRILLA WAR

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In an Alternative/Parallel Universe, in the Country called SALEW, the University of the Peoples Republic puts on display the recently discovered diaries of Ernesto 'Che' Guevara, the popular hero of the Chartist Guerrilla Struggle in the 'Green Desert' of Central Cymru that initiated the beginnings of a long Revolutionary Peoples War of National Liberation. The Chartist Guerrilla Army had decided not to be premature and risk all, in what was to be the doomed Newport Rising but wisely refrained from any confrontation with a much stronger enemy force.

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This proved a wise decision, later joined by Chartists in retreat from Newport with what remained of the secret 'Byddin Tarw Scotch', the Chartist Army of Central Cymru soon became a force ready to take on the forces of Capitalist Imperialism. However, first they had to knock out the 'Byddin Rebecca' of Western Reactionary Rural 'Crachach' Separatists based in Ystrad Tywi, this eventually achieved the way lay open for eventual victory via the establishment of a 'Silurian Socialist State' of the Southern Valleys with it's capital based on the Merthyr 1831 Red Commune, under the Presidency of Huwi Lewis.

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Ernesto 'Che' was to eventually be killed whilst leading Cymric - Indian forces in their Patagonian National Liberation Struggle against Latino Imperialists........To be continued by anyone with the time to spare, not seriously involved in any pressing present day Welsh Struggle, Socialist or otherwise.

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This booklet by way is on sale at Waterstons, please do not engage in the suggested activities within it's pages at home and not in school unless supervised by teacher ok kids!

A WELSH WORKERS & CITIZENS ARMY ARISES TO DEFEND A WELSH SOCIALIST REPUBLIC?

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It is generally accepted that the FWA fucked up, and was anyway possibly too ''Right Wing'', former Plaid Cymru Researcher, WSRM founder with others plus Editor of Y Saeth Radical Nationalist Magazine, now Gen Sec of Wales Communist Party thought so. But 'WHAT IF?' the proposed Welsh Citizen Army (see Document below, first so light of day about 1967) had actually become something real rather than the imagination of one man, or 'WHAT IF?' Ian Bones 'Class War' had taken up on a WCA or taken over the FWA and made of it a Welsh Workers/Popular Front Army. How different might the ''Sixties'' been not least how different might the Investiture have turned out or maybe a left Militantism would have gone in an entirely different direction toward a Socialist National Welsh Liberation Struggle.

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Alternativelly 'WHAT IF?' Wales had witnessed via the 1831 Hirwaun/Merthyr Insurrection the beginnings of a successful Armed Workers Struggle. Then in time a Welsh Workers Army coming into existence in the struggle of the Scotch Cattle led by Edward Morgan who joins with Lewis Lewis to establish such Army of Workers to march on Newport in November 1839 and decisively defeat the forces of British Capitalist Imperialism to then set up a 'Silurian Socialist Republic'.

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As result of the establishment of this Southern Welsh Workers Republic, the Welsh Bourgeoisie use the Rebecca Movement of the West to establish their own Welsh Nationalist Army. This Bourgeoisie Welsh Native Neo - Capitalist Movement and Army aided by British Imperialism prepares to moves to take on the Silurian Republic's Workers Army.

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Then at Carmarthen the 'Byddin Rebecca' of farmers and small holders faces a mutiny by Peasants & Labourers who seize Carmarthen Work House and declare their own Western 'Peoples Republic'. However, after a two week siege, the Peoples Army begins to see it's resolve crack and are about to surrender, but it is at this moment the Workers Army of the Silurian Peoples Republic marches into Carmarthen and forces 'Byddin Rebecca' to retreat to make a last stand on Mynydd Bach in Ceredigion.

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Following on this victory of the Workers and Peasant Armies, they unite into one great Peoples Army and between 1839 and 1848 engage in a popular Armed Struggle to bring into a Socialist Wales, the North and Central Regions of the Country. In 1848 at Merthyr Tudful, the 'Red Commune' there is made a 'National Commune', and Merthyr Tudful becomes Capital of a United Welsh Workers Republic.

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Now you take it from there up to present times, taking in Welsh History from 1848 to the present, also if you wish develop the story from 1797 to 1816 up to 1831 to 1848.

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Gethin Goch. Welsh Workers Army - 'Silurian Republic Division'.
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Great Stuff, why not become a ''Nutter'' and join in, beats worrying about Credit Squeeze and 'End of the World' as we know it.